Subject	Hi Vuk, thanks for stopping by w. your typical replies.
Posted by	Bernie (NoVA) on November 30, 2009 at 1:00 PM
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In Reply To	Re: AMS Water Pump Pulley misalignment - per Honzrr's request posted by Vuk@Absolute Motorsports Inc. on November 30, 2009 at 12:33 PM
Message	I'll reply to the items in your post worth commenting on. Your pulley is flawed. Has been since the day you released it. I don't care how many production runs you claim nor does it matter - the comsumer can simply measure the offset of their pulley using a ruler if they find it to be @ 20mm, great. If they find otherwise they will know that their belt is misaligned. In my book a 10% misalignment is significant. When there is simply not need for it to be there in the 1st place. Your defense of "prove to me its a problem" is typical. How about you prove to me that it's not off by 2+mm. If your parts where truely R&D'd you would have known this from the start. You can monitor all you want. I will test any AMS pulley that is currently in the hands of comsumers TODAY 11.30.09 - I speculate that they ALL will have this flaw. The HI pulley is made in the USA of light weight & strong T6061 Aluminum. Always has been. Ciao. Bernie Bilski berniebilski@cox.net 1995 Nissan 300ZX TwinTurbo in Cobalt Green 1997 Nissan 240SX SE in Ultra Red ZCCNV #390 ~ ECZA #368
Follow Ups	AMS Water Pump Pulley misalignment - per Honzrr's request - Bernie (NoVA) 00:56:30 11/30/09 Interesting... I have a strong will to remove my AMS pulley - TeenHeat 01:04:07 11/30/09 Thanks for the Apples/Apples testing. (n/m) - induetime 01:28:19 11/30/09 Re: AMS Water Pump Pulley misalignment - per Honzrr's request - WazTTed 01:31:55 11/30/09 eeeeeeeenteristing... - vorpalZ 01:32:06 11/30/09 It's not about the seller. It's all about consumers choice. (n/m) - Spongerider :) 11:12:59 11/30/09 The unfortunate result of this thought process is... - rojoloco (San Diego) 11:30:49 11/30/09 indeed (n/m) - aliaZ 17:44:31 11/30/09 Thanks for the follow-through. (n/m) - SeedyROM 02:15:19 11/30/09 Was never any doubt in my mind.... - Multi_Read (MO) 02:33:48 11/30/09 Thank you for your dedication to accurate information. - ZLover4Life 03:39:25 11/30/09 Good write up. - Boosted1 05:54:18 11/30/09 Great info (n/m) - Polish 06:19:27 11/30/09 so much for the speed holes (n/m) - aliaZ 06:29:42 11/30/09 nice info...are you going to post this on 3ZC? (n/m) - Ahmed (Chicago) 07:21:52 11/30/09 What, and risk getting banned? Why bother? - BigTDogg (MA) 09:59:56 11/30/09 why does the pulley sit further away from the base - The Devils Z 07:22:57 11/30/09 and how much does the OEM water pump pulley weigh ? (n/m) - The Devils Z 07:26:09 11/30/09 I think the why is covered, the stock weight is ~11oz. (n/m) - Bernie (NoVA) 08:19:05 11/30/09 The AMS pulley is a *direct* copy of the PEX pulley, - ni[X]it 09:11:49 11/30/09 thanx ..I don't really follow the AMS threads too much - The Devils Z 12:15:38 11/30/09 Correct - AMS & PEX have the exact same offset problem - Bernie (NoVA) 11:09:56 01/10/10 I do not trust the data from someone w/o world business - zgene4 08:59:33 11/30/09 nice work to tell us what most of us already know. (n/m) - Halo Z 09:33:47 11/30/09 Thanks... (n/m) - RSR 09:37:41 11/30/09 i'll have to check and see which one I have (n/m) - Adam (NoVA) 09:54:41 11/30/09 Look for the heavy speed holes. (n/m) - Guapo 10:23:42 11/30/09 Can't wait to see if they reply to this or... - rojoloco (San Diego) 10:14:24 11/30/09 They will "redesign" - marklar182 10:29:51 11/30/09 Sadly, this doesn't sound too far off. (n/m) - rojoloco (San Diego) 11:23:03 11/30/09 thanks for the info. nice. (n/m) - RedSER13 10:33:39 11/30/09 Thanks Bernie. - SimaYi 10:36:39 11/30/09 I think honzrr has been banned (n/m) - aliaZ 10:41:07 11/30/09 (Total Hits: a lot). Thanks Bernie, very informative. - Spongerider :) 11:22:15 11/30/09 They are a large, accredited company after all. - rojoloco (San Diego) 11:32:50 11/30/09 Re: AMS Water Pump Pulley misalignment - per Honzrr's request - Vuk@Absolute Motorsports Inc. 12:33:30 11/30/09 well, you sure convinced me, that Bernie guy is all talk! - ZEngineer 12:50:44 11/30/09 Hi Vuk, thanks for stopping by w. your typical replies. - Bernie (NoVA) 13:00:59 11/30/09 does your warranty cover the "speculative" failure? (n/m) - chicagozer 13:01:22 11/30/09 Probably not - see my point 4 below ... - ConVerTT 13:11:32 11/30/09 Why not use customer satisfaction? - Spongerider :) 14:06:17 11/30/09 Your response is very interesting. You admit to a design - Spongerider :) 13:05:48 11/30/09 So let me see if I have this straight .... - ConVerTT 13:08:47 11/30/09 Hi there, great points Vuk!! - BigTDogg (MA) 13:11:46 11/30/09 I second VTB. - ZHOUND 13:27:35 11/30/09 LOL! - collegeboy 13:17:49 11/30/09 I'm with you man. It's probably close enough. (n/m) - PennStateZ (VA) 13:42:08 11/30/09 Belt deflection is 90* to the misalignment that your xeroxed - boileralum 13:45:43 11/30/09 All i gotta say is...Nissan engineers made it 20mm and not - nonstopna 14:16:37 11/30/09 More like... - PennStateZ (VA) 15:07:09 11/30/09 LMAO. Good one. (n/m) - ForceFedTT (SoCal) 07:41:41 12/02/09 just checked, I got my from Bernie - Adam (NoVA) 15:24:11 11/30/09 You'd be better off not replying to any of this... - PennStateZ (VA) 15:42:18 11/30/09 Sad that it's so predictable... - ZLover4Life 16:06:49 11/30/09 lol... (n/m) - TTZMatt 16:22:21 11/30/09 Who cares if it is flawed as long as you make money right? (n/m) - Aqualung 16:31:24 11/30/09 Do you really believe the crap that you type? - bstyleZ 17:30:59 11/30/09 BTW, as if you weren't proving how stupid you are - BigTDogg (MA) 21:40:07 11/30/09 Let's just troll his BRAND NEW TOLL FREE phone number! - Aqualung 22:13:37 11/30/09 LOL, wish I could, I'm bizzand (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 22:34:29 11/30/09 It's Toll Free across North America. So I Propose... - Aqualung 15:48:33 12/01/09 Link? (n/m) - SeedyROM 23:02:02 11/30/09 Found it! High comedy... - SeedyROM 23:19:37 11/30/09 WTF...I don't get it - aliaZ 00:13:19 12/01/09 Exactly - SeedyROM 00:42:42 12/01/09 what was the name of their kit? (n/m) - aliaZ 06:36:12 12/01/09 Obviously they lack common sense and logic over at - Spongerider :) 11:03:41 12/01/09 Are the people over there - ZXRider(SoCal) 03:06:27 12/01/09 Either that or they're living in denial - BigTDogg (MA) 07:36:48 12/01/09 i'm at a loss for words - Ahmed (Chicago) 07:52:59 12/01/09 seriously - ali300zx 10:44:36 12/01/09 One dude asked about technical information - ZXRider(SoCal) 10:53:56 12/01/09 there teen ricers who most - Alan(MD/NJ) 10:04:27 12/01/09 They're not all teen ricers - BigTDogg (MA) 10:42:44 12/01/09 allow me to introduce you to the typical American youth (n/m) - LJZTT 00:14:03 12/02/09 LOL @ this: - PennStateZ (VA) 11:01:59 12/01/09 He was responding to my statement - Aqualung 15:32:27 12/01/09 you added spacers to make AMS look bad :-) - h0nzrr 16:30:15 12/01/09 You had me for a second :~) (n/m) - Aqualung 17:31:35 12/01/09 I am good huh? :-) (n/m) - ArubaDave 18:28:03 12/01/09 Oops... I just VTD'd Dave's post before I realized :) (n/m) - PennStateZ (VA) 17:30:02 12/01/09 :-( (n/m) - ArubaDave 19:25:02 12/01/09 retards on parade (n/m) - Spee 23:46:32 12/01/09 Isn't that a Rage Against The Machine song? - BigTDogg (MA) 06:53:07 12/02/09 bulls on parade actually - 96300NAZ 08:29:03 12/02/09 And you know this, MAN!! - BigTDogg (MA) 09:54:07 12/02/09 silly Dogg! (n/m) - Spee 19:04:30 12/02/09 Its a shame really - 96300NAZ 08:59:56 12/02/09 Good points - BigTDogg (MA) 09:53:02 12/02/09 I understand what you're saying - 96300NAZ 10:47:58 12/02/09 I'm glad you're not an engineer. (n/m) - Spee 23:28:16 12/01/09 Wow....just wow. (n/m) - zfreak(Dallas) 07:30:33 12/02/09 Bookmarked. Thanks Bernie. (n/m) - AbsolutZ 13:50:12 11/30/09 Wheres the ams bandwagon group in this thread? - zxtuner161 14:50:23 11/30/09 Honzrr got himself banned and jschrauwen is avoiding the - Bernie (NoVA) 15:10:52 11/30/09 Amen, finally (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 15:56:19 11/30/09 Wow, takes quite a bit to get banned here - SeedyROM 16:04:51 11/30/09 Jeff Buckley is playing Hallelujah on his Tele in heaven. (n/m) - Aqualung 16:21:43 11/30/09 Honzrr was logged in a few minutes ago... (n/m) - PennStateZ (VA) 19:16:58 11/30/09 Yup and the little kid got a nice surprise, LoL!! (n/m) - Spongerider :) 19:34:02 11/30/09 it will take him a while to figure out why nobody responds - aliaZ 19:37:27 11/30/09 lol... awesome. (n/m) - PennStateZ (VA) 19:56:34 11/30/09 Just ignore him, he'll go away. (n/m) - SactoTodd 21:28:19 11/30/09 banned? Wow it takes a lot to get banned here too LOL (n/m) - Piranha(PHX) 20:09:29 11/30/09 Honzrr - michaelsevilla 16:43:07 11/30/09 Thanks for sharing it. (n/m) - Bernie (NoVA) 17:13:31 11/30/09 Guess it's getting hard to find a good copy, to copy. (n/m) - bstyleZ 17:44:52 11/30/09 it costs more to buy a good product to copy - ZLover4Life 18:33:46 11/30/09 Why do you think they pay jschrauwen? (n/m) - PennStateZ (VA) 18:47:26 11/30/09 No pay or business arrangement here, sorry. (n/m) - jschrauwen 19:58:54 11/30/09 Then get rid of that godawful sticker. - PennStateZ (VA) 20:16:40 11/30/09 Been gone for months Matt (n/m) - jschrauwen 20:45:19 11/30/09 That's wonderful John. - PennStateZ (VA) 20:55:13 11/30/09 Do you really think he will ever say one bad word about Vuk? (n/m) - Aqualung 22:11:12 11/30/09 Since you asked.... - jschrauwen 23:08:20 11/30/09 I appreciate you & Honzrr for calling me a liar a week ago. (n/m) - Bernie (NoVA) 23:27:03 11/30/09 ??? I make it a point not to choose words like that Bernie - jschrauwen 23:51:15 11/30/09 Shrug. - Bernie (NoVA) 00:12:50 12/01/09 and... corrected. (n/m) - zgene4 09:43:28 12/01/09 You can probably cut the bullshit any time now. - PennStateZ (VA) 16:59:44 12/01/09 It's called freedom of choice and speech. (n/m) - jschrauwen 01:00:52 12/02/09 Actually it's called bullshit. (n/m) - PennStateZ (VB) 08:19:26 12/02/09 ??? I make it a point not to choose words like that Bernie - jschrauwen 04:32:54 12/01/09 So I guess AMS's margin of error is +/- 10% (n/m) - DavezTT 17:45:39 11/30/09 Nice work Bernie! - DVDBURN (MD) 20:09:29 11/30/09 To be honest I have no interest in it. I use UR or ASP on - Bernie (NoVA) 22:58:29 11/30/09 bookmarked... Thanks Bernie! (n/m) - Piranha(PHX) 20:10:06 11/30/09 Do you people know there's a war going on, and the economy - zellamay 22:57:29 11/30/09 Global warming isn't real (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 10:41:24 12/01/09 The planet has actually gone down 1* in the last decade (n/m) - alpha_omega16 11:42:42 12/01/09 Do you guys read at all? Even those who tried to deny it - zellamay 09:30:17 12/02/09 Re: AMS Water Pump Pulley misalignment - per Honzrr's reques - michaelsevilla 03:12:52 12/01/09 And.... Victory - BigTDogg (MA) 12:56:19 12/01/09 it's a disgrace - Ahmed (Chicago) 13:27:38 12/01/09 You'd think that would be the standard reaction. - PennStateZ (VA) 14:55:58 12/01/09 :-) - BigTDogg (MA) 17:53:59 12/01/09 Does someone with an actual post count want to handle this? - PennStateZ (VA) 18:33:24 12/01/09 This guy is a good samaritan. - PennStateZ (VA) 18:38:28 12/01/09 I was one of the people banned - pencerules 19:19:10 12/01/09 Sad and predictable. (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 21:44:57 12/01/09 Thread seems to have taken a turn. - PennStateZ (VB) 22:13:12 12/01/09 nail to the coffin - 96300NAZ 14:05:37 12/02/09 you added spacers to make AMS look bad :-) - h0nzrr 16:33:33 12/01/09 lol, hi Dave! (n/m) - SeedyROM 18:55:35 12/01/09 LOL,I miss Sarcasm police (n/m) - ArubaDave 19:00:45 12/01/09
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